D Magazine burger editor pro tem — and sometime literary agent — David Hale Smith stopped by the Old Monk to talk about all the hunks of meat he consumed for our Best Burgers in Dallas issue and how his New York colleagues still can't understand that Dallas isn't a wasteland of wagon wheels and oil derricks.

Hosts: Tim Rogers, Zac Crain
Guest: David Hale Smith
Theme music: Shibboleth's "The Bavarian," from the 2008 album Experiment in Error (Idol Records)