Hello dear friends! Join Meg and Julia as they try to understand this confusing chapter of LoTR. Our muddled topics include: mr. Helm himself, Julia's most hated word: fireplace, the ultimate breakdown of the army, Gandalf and Saruman twinning, the LoTR road trip, TWO epic Meghan monologues, the biome of middle earth (and APES?!), chess vs checkers, The Queens Gambit, walking trees, what Sauron looks like, why Gandalf is so mysterious (we mention Harry Potter, of course), knitting Orcs, we follow up on the worms of fiction, and so much more!

Do you like Gandalf the Grey or Gandalf the White better? We'd love to hear from you.

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Created/Hosted/Edited/Produced by Julia and Meghan