Brian and Joy present our long-awaited interview with Ellen Evert Hopman, on the topics of Herbalism and Druidism.  Also discussed are many problems with Columbus Day, Native Americans and many things, as per usual.

There’s also a chance to win a copy of her forthcoming book, Secret Medicines from your Garden.  It will be given to one lucky listener who gets the trivia question correct.  Listen to the podcast to find instructions of where to go to get the trivia question and information on how to be in the drawing for a copy of Ellen’s book.