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Episode 27: No Justice for Trayvon / Drunk Asian Jesus
CW: hate speech/language
On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 31 which originally aired on July 15, 2013. Most of this episode was me discussing the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin. Also discussion of current topics including the dehumanizing and torturous polices of the U.S. in regards to migrant children and families, the Marshae Jones case, Portland fascist and antifascist conflict, and Police and Border Patrol Agents posting racist hateful content. Check the timestamps below for episode details:
*00:00 - Intro to POC / Intro to the Hate Project
Topics discussed include references below:
Portland - fascist rally & antifascist resistance, Andy Ngo milkshaked, Portland Police claim cement is in the milkshakes:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/30/portland-police-cement-milkshake-leftwing-rightwing-protests?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1561894970
Marshae Jones, pregnant woman shot and then charged in the death of fetus:
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/737005113/woman-indicted-for-manslaughter-after-death-of-her-fetus-may-avoid-prosecution
Police post violent racist facebook posts:
https://www.revealnews.org/article/inside-hate-groups-on-facebook-police-officers-trade-racist-memes-conspiracy-theories-and-islamophobia/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilyhoerner/police-facebook-racist-violent-posts-comments-philadelphia
Border Patrol Agent calls migrants "subhuman shit", rams a migrant with truck
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matthew-bowen-border-patrol-trial-847878/
*19:44 - Hate Project show beings. I Talk about George Zimmerman being acquitted for the murder of Trayvon Martin, also discussion of Marissa Alexander case, Bernard Goetz, and general interacting with trolls in chat.
*51:54 - A troll in the chat is lobbing racially charged yet homoerotic statements at me. I ask this guy why he buys into the stereotypes of black people being violent, asking if a black person has ever committed violence towards him.
*57:20 – someone in chat room threatens “race war” and I pose the same question from the earlier episodes – if there was a race war and everyone was armed equally – who would win?
*1:06:00 - Discussion of Zimmerman being half-latino, and I talk about Latinos and Asians who I grew up around in TX, who tried to assimilate especially if they could pass for white. If accepted, they do the bidding of white supremacy.
*1:11:36 – I refute a troll who says “America is only for whites”, I’m accused of being a jew. More homophobic yet homoerotic trash talk
*1:22:22 – I explain why I don’t believe white guilt from liberal whites is good for anyone, discussion of Jordan Davis case, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson
*1:37:14 - Discussion of black men who saved white girls - Tamar Boggs and Charles Ramsey. Discussion of Trayvon/Zimmerman jury had 6 white women and white women taught to fear black men while benefitting from white privilege
*1:51:25 – Regular klansman caller dragon1488 calls in. He reiterates how wrong George Zimmerman was but still takes a racial dig at Trayvon Martin.
-I mention that I traveled through Tennesee where Dragon lives, he says we could’ve had dinner together and sounds sincere, I mention that he probably doesn’t want to meet me. I describe eating a meal in “The Old Mill” a former Union sympathetic site in Tennessee.
*2:05:23 - “Guest 20” calls in. He defends George Zimmerman, makes same arguments that trolls made. Dragon pushes back on him as well. I bring up Marissa Alexander again.
-He doesn’t want to reveal if he’s part of a movement, but says KiGY to Dragon: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/kigy
-I bring up the lessons of Ice Cube’s “Friday” in regards to a fight.
*2:28:48 – I ask “Guest 20” why he’s a racist and try interrogate why he says the N-word. He believes race is scientific and genetic and more than a social construct.
-He mentions the book “The Bell Curve” as influencing him, wrongly credits black conservative Thomas Sowell as the author.
*2:27:38 - “Guest 20” asks me my personal definition of racist, I answer. Dragon admits he fits my definition.
-Dragon then gets racist about Trayvon and George Zimmerman – says 50 years ago this would have never been an issue
-Guest 20 reveals he is Christian Identity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
-Guest 20 and I debate the Bible and the peacefulness of Jesus – he and Dragon argue that Christians are meant to only love other (white) Christians
-Guest 20 shares “Cat O’ Nine Tails” story in the Temple, makes me question Jesus’s peacefulness.
-I challenge the “Blood in the Face” ideology by explaining Asian flush.
*2:48:00 - Regular African-American Sports Host caller NajRadio calls in. He weighs in on Zimmerman trial. I comment on stupidity of white liberals saying “I am Trayvon”
*3:02:08 - Neo-nazi McBride calls in. I challenge him briefly on his disturbing “racial holy war” comments and advocating the jailing of black babies. Najradio also dogs him and also brings up the injustice committed against Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning.
*3:06:35 - Outro
Email: [email protected]
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paradoxofcivility/
Other references from episode:
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.
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CW: hate speech/language
On this episode...I revisit "The Hate Project" episode 31 which originally aired on July 15, 2013. Most of this episode was me discussing the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin. Also discussion of current topics including the dehumanizing and torturous polices of the U.S. in regards to migrant children and families, the Marshae Jones case, Portland fascist and antifascist conflict, and Police and Border Patrol Agents posting racist hateful content. Check the timestamps below for episode details:
*00:00 - Intro to POC / Intro to the Hate Project
Topics discussed include references below:
Portland - fascist rally & antifascist resistance, Andy Ngo milkshaked, Portland Police claim cement is in the milkshakes:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/30/portland-police-cement-milkshake-leftwing-rightwing-protests?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1561894970
Marshae Jones, pregnant woman shot and then charged in the death of fetus:
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/737005113/woman-indicted-for-manslaughter-after-death-of-her-fetus-may-avoid-prosecution
Police post violent racist facebook posts:
https://www.revealnews.org/article/inside-hate-groups-on-facebook-police-officers-trade-racist-memes-conspiracy-theories-and-islamophobia/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilyhoerner/police-facebook-racist-violent-posts-comments-philadelphia
Border Patrol Agent calls migrants "subhuman shit", rams a migrant with truck
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matthew-bowen-border-patrol-trial-847878/
*19:44 - Hate Project show beings. I Talk about George Zimmerman being acquitted for the murder of Trayvon Martin, also discussion of Marissa Alexander case, Bernard Goetz, and general interacting with trolls in chat.
*51:54 - A troll in the chat is lobbing racially charged yet homoerotic statements at me. I ask this guy why he buys into the stereotypes of black people being violent, asking if a black person has ever committed violence towards him.
*57:20 – someone in chat room threatens “race war” and I pose the same question from the earlier episodes – if there was a race war and everyone was armed equally – who would win?
*1:06:00 - Discussion of Zimmerman being half-latino, and I talk about Latinos and Asians who I grew up around in TX, who tried to assimilate especially if they could pass for white. If accepted, they do the bidding of white supremacy.
*1:11:36 – I refute a troll who says “America is only for whites”, I’m accused of being a jew. More homophobic yet homoerotic trash talk
*1:22:22 – I explain why I don’t believe white guilt from liberal whites is good for anyone, discussion of Jordan Davis case, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson
*1:37:14 - Discussion of black men who saved white girls - Tamar Boggs and Charles Ramsey. Discussion of Trayvon/Zimmerman jury had 6 white women and white women taught to fear black men while benefitting from white privilege
*1:51:25 – Regular klansman caller dragon1488 calls in. He reiterates how wrong George Zimmerman was but still takes a racial dig at Trayvon Martin.
-I mention that I traveled through Tennesee where Dragon lives, he says we could’ve had dinner together and sounds sincere, I mention that he probably doesn’t want to meet me. I describe eating a meal in “The Old Mill” a former Union sympathetic site in Tennessee.
*2:05:23 - “Guest 20” calls in. He defends George Zimmerman, makes same arguments that trolls made. Dragon pushes back on him as well. I bring up Marissa Alexander again.
-He doesn’t want to reveal if he’s part of a movement, but says KiGY to Dragon: https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/kigy
-I bring up the lessons of Ice Cube’s “Friday” in regards to a fight.
*2:28:48 – I ask “Guest 20” why he’s a racist and try interrogate why he says the N-word. He believes race is scientific and genetic and more than a social construct.
-He mentions the book “The Bell Curve” as influencing him, wrongly credits black conservative Thomas Sowell as the author.
*2:27:38 - “Guest 20” asks me my personal definition of racist, I answer. Dragon admits he fits my definition.
-Dragon then gets racist about Trayvon and George Zimmerman – says 50 years ago this would have never been an issue
-Guest 20 reveals he is Christian Identity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
-Guest 20 and I debate the Bible and the peacefulness of Jesus – he and Dragon argue that Christians are meant to only love other (white) Christians
-Guest 20 shares “Cat O’ Nine Tails” story in the Temple, makes me question Jesus’s peacefulness.
-I challenge the “Blood in the Face” ideology by explaining Asian flush.
*2:48:00 - Regular African-American Sports Host caller NajRadio calls in. He weighs in on Zimmerman trial. I comment on stupidity of white liberals saying “I am Trayvon”
*3:02:08 - Neo-nazi McBride calls in. I challenge him briefly on his disturbing “racial holy war” comments and advocating the jailing of black babies. Najradio also dogs him and also brings up the injustice committed against Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning.
*3:06:35 - Outro
Email: [email protected]
Twitter: @civilpodcast
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paradoxofcivility/
Other references from episode:
Music:
Gnossienne no. 1 by International Surrealist Bulletinis licensed under a CC0 1.0 Universal License.
Remedy for Melancholy by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License.