A sparkly conversation with cellist Margit van der Zwan.  Exciting times when she toured with the band Elbow for five years.  It was brilliant to catch up with her many creative endeavours including recently devising and publishing a brand new card game "Quartet", song-writing and recording her very catchy single "Oo La La" with her band The Ladybird plus her fantastic drawing and painting skills.  If I tell you she played a saw live on air it will tell you everything you need to know about this woman.  So wonderful to catch up with her.