What if UFOs aren’t demons—or aliens—but something far stranger? In this episode of the Circle Dwellers podcast, Matt and Tim Krell explore the exploding UFO/UAP conversation and ask what Christians should actually make of it. From Victor Davis Hanson’s surprising 50/50 stance, to Diana Walsh Pasulka’s research on UFO religion, to stories like the Varginha Incident and modern UAP sightings, they wrestle with whether these phenomena are physical beings, spiritual powers, government psyops, or all of the above. Instead of jumping to simplistic answers like “They’re just demons,” the brothers examine medieval angelology, spiritual-physical overlap, the re-enchantment of the modern world, and the dangers of building a new secular religion around UFOs. If you’re a Christian fascinated by aliens, conspiracy culture, or the supernatural—and want a grounded, thoughtful take—this episode will challenge your assumptions and strengthen your faith.