Steven tells us about his life and Devon tells us about how much his mother-in-law hated Joker. NASA engineer's 'helical engine' may violate the laws of physics. Daily exposure to blue light may accelerate aging, even if it doesn't reach your eyes. Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order has gotten good buzz. Steven finished Iron Gold and is now reading the next book: Dark Age. We play some of Devon’s new music. Devon liked the new Picard trailer. We also talk about Love, Death and Robots, and Bojack Horseman.