This podcast episode explores the close link between depression and suicide, framed through personal experiences and spiritual perspectives. Pastor Paul Ceccato and Campus Pastor Matthew DeLeon emphasize how negative thought patterns can trap people in hopelessness, leading to suicidal ideation. They discuss the role of environment, chemical imbalances, trauma, and spiritual influences, while also highlighting signs of suicidal tendencies. Toward the end, they outline practical and spiritual steps to overcome depression—such as changing thought patterns, seeking supportive community, and caring for physical health.