Do you want God's presence, or do you just want His presents? This week Dot and Cara sit with that question and trace it through the life of Moses, a man who saw God's power firsthand but still said he wasn't going anywhere without God's presence going with him. They talk through Moses and the Israelites, Mary and Martha, and what it actually means to know God's ways instead of just knowing what He can do for you. It's an honest conversation about desperation, entitlement, and the difference between serving God and simply sitting with Him. Pull up a chair, grab your Bible, and lean in with us.

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Episode Recap

• Intro (00:00)
• Write this down: Exodus 33:14-17, Moses asking for God's presence to go with him (00:00)
• Dot and Cara open up on a truth they keep circling back to in their own faith (01:20)
• Mary and Martha's story, and how busyness for God can crowd out actually being with Him (01:20)
• Moses' journey from the burning bush to needing to know God is truly in it with him (03:47)
• The honest question so many of us are quietly asking, how do I know God is even here? (07:47)
• "Do I want your presence, or do I want your presents?" a question worth sitting with today (09:26)
• Knowing God's ways isn't about His power, it's about knowing His heart like you'd know a close friend (13:44)
• Obedience, trust, and why God's power alone was never meant to be what grows your faith (15:00)
• A simple way to start, just sitting with God and asking for nothing but His presence (22:02)

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This Episode’s Scripture Verse
Exodus 33:14-17 (ESV) — "And he said, 'My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.' And he said to him, 'If your presence will not go with me, do not bring us up from here. For how shall it be known that I have found favor in your sight, I and your people? Is it not in your going with us, so that we are distinct, I and your people, from every other people on the face of the earth?' And the Lord said to Moses, 'This very thing that you have spoken I will do, for you have found favor in my sight, and I know you by name.'"