Clay Tumey is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Executive Director Rick Olesek sit down with Clay for a chat about May 21, 2007—the day the good began.

Also in this episode, we pause at 37:49 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Susanne Gawreluk.

For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.