This week’s episode was prompted by an email exchange about hedgehogs. Those enchanting little creatures are about to take us down a garden path that leads to cybernetics, home grown national parks, reframing values and a memory jog back to our childhood for some inspiration.

I’m in conversation with Josephine Lock. Josephine did post graduate research with Professor Stafford Beer, the founder of Management Cybernetics and the author of “Beyond Dispute”. She began in one field and landed literally in another when she shifted her focus from the business and academic world to the training of dogs for conservation work.

This conversation is filled with ways in which we can all make a difference. I hope this isn’t a podcast you listen to just for entertainmentand then forget about. Jo reminds us that the purpose of a system, is what it does. That’s a great quote. What does this podcast do? I hope it helps us all to send out ripples that make a difference.

“Our obsession with the growth of our wallets needs to shift to the growth of our minds.” That’s another great statement.

Here’s another quote Jo shared with us:

“The greatest task is to live on a piece of land without spoiling it.” Aldo Leopold

Why isn’t that a measure of success?

Plant a butterfly garden and you can begin to influence value systems.

You can spark conversations in a non-confrontational way. You can model alternatives.

You can change value systems in small ways that send the ripples out. And before you know it, that becomes the norm.

It becomes trendy.

Can we fix it? Of course we can. Begin by picking one thing where you can make a change, and then please visit this Horses for Future facebook page and share the ripples you are setting into motion. Let’s inspire one another with our thoughtful action.

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