In this episode, an in-depth analysis of the Travis Dermott is provided alongside all of the new rumours surrounding Maple Leaf acquisition targets. What do the Leafs need to upgrade? Is Hamilton worth it? Are Bertuzzi and Forsberg legitimate options? What is going on with Hyman and Rielly? What is Dubas' game plan? If you want the answers to these questions, make sure you have a listen! This or that also returns with a new debate segment centered around whether you would prefer to be swept in the cup finals, or have a first round exit.