Dan is joined by Mackenzie Dunn & Kohan Van Sambeeck, the first couple on the podcast! Mackenzie and Kohan frequently work on the same musical theatre shows, including the most recent Australian production of Annie! MacKenzie is the singer, actor, and dancer while Kohan is on the other side of things, often taking on MD responsibilities or seen working in the orchestra pit! 

We chat about the first time they met, being in entirely separate worlds at work, working with kids, carrying the lessons you learn from job to job, the responsibilities of conducting, being hyper aware of the conductor on stage as a performer, having the space to create their own work, not forcing creativity, collaborating with Rubin Matters, releasing the music, dealing with creative blocks, challenging each other, One Day in September, the difficulty of getting new Aussie musicals off the ground, shedding light on an important topic, the wild time when One Day in September finally opened, the incompleteness of art, coming from a show business family, working with your mum, willing to put in the hard yards, finding routine on a commercial contract, being in a career that requires people to like you, Mackenzie's friendship with Javon King, future projects, working with a Wiggle, and a whole lot more!

Cover Photo (background): Matty Parker

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