NASCAR veteran B.J. McLeod joins Davey Segal (7:25) for an all-encompassing conversation on and off track, including what it's been like without a charter, the transition personally and professionally to racing part-time, what his day-to-day looks like running Live Fast Motorsports, Katherine Legge's progression in the No. 78 this year and more.

McLeod also dives into the charter system, explaining why it's a viable business model for decades to come, why he and Matt Tifft sold theirs and reveals why he's already chomping at the bit to get back in, given the right situation. He also discusses the Pigeon Forge Racing Coaster, why they built it, the genesis behind it and his passion for theme parks. Plus, selling sponsorship for a mid-pack/backmarker team, why he thinks he has so much respect from seemingly everyone in the garage, the determination to win a NASCAR race before he turns 50, his obsession with skulls and backwards hats and much, much more.

Davey also reviews Austin Dillon's surprise Richmond win for the second consecutive year, looks ahead to the regular season finale at Daytona and Papa Segal looks back to Spingate.