American Mock Trial Association (AMTA) Tabulation Director Johnathan Woodward spoke with Ben and Drew for a wide-ranging conversation about mock trial, including his thoughts on the new ORCS pairing system, some examples of the best calls he's gotten from AMTA Representatives during competition season, how AMTA pairing and tabulation systems have evolved over the years, what it's like to announce the winner of the National Championship Tournament, and whether he thinks AMTA would ever go to an electronic tabulation or pairing system.