In this episode, Senior Pastor Shawn Zambrows and Associate Pastor Nick Quient are joined by their friend Rev. Robert A. Wilkins. Rev. Wilkins Sr. is the Managing Principal of the HIIP Group Ltd., a management consulting firm specializing in strategy, organizational development and marketing communications for social enterprise businesses and corporations in the western United States. They talk about banking, justice, and Robert's life as an unconventional minister of Jesus Christ.

Robert is a Visiting Professor of Community Leadership and  Functional Theology at American Baptist Seminary of the West in Berkeley, California. From 1997 to 2016, Robert served as the President and Chief Executive Officer of the YMCA of the East Bay. Robert is an ordained minister of the American Baptist Churches USA. He has served as the Associate Pastor for Young Adults at the historic Allen Temple Baptist Church in Oakland and as Assistant Campus Minister for the American Baptists at the University of Southern California. For more information about SPUR and Robert's work, click HERE. We plan on having Robert back on in the coming months to talk about the social and economic implications of his work - this is just a down payment!

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