In the first of two episodes from Alabama, Amelia speaks with Tori Wolfe-Sisson in Birmingham about BLK PEARL, a learning and leisure alliance that cultivates wellness through visibility and economic development with Black, Brown, Indigenous, Transgender & Queer Women.

They spend the first half of the interview discussing Tori’s organizing work, and then have a really candid conversation about the stories people tell about Alabama and how to look beyond stereotypical narratives of the South. Plus Tori gives us an audio tour of forgotten and destroyed monuments in Birmingham and Montgomery.

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