Rebellious Times Podcast

Episode 29: Rethinking Work as a Product for the AI Age


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Why Hiring Is Broken — and How Work as a Product Fixes It

Hiring is one of the hardest problems in business.
For small companies, it is also one of the most expensive.

In this episode of the Rebellious Times Podcast, Chris Januszewski speaks with Josh Hill, CEO of SuperHired, about why traditional hiring processes fail and how a new mindset can change everything.

Josh brings a unique background to the HR world. He transitioned from military service into human resources, where he saw firsthand how broken hiring systems damage teams, culture, and performance. As a result, he now advocates for treating work as a product — something intentionally designed, not hastily filled.

Key Highlights

  • Why traditional hiring is inefficient and risky

  • What it means to treat work as a product

  • Why hiring should be a matchmaking exercise

  • How AI should act as a copilot, not a replacement

  • The real cost of bad hires for small businesses

  • Why diversity improves decision-making and outcomes

    Perfect for:
    • Founders and small business owners
    • HR and people-ops leaders
    • Startup executives hiring their first teams
    • Anyone navigating AI in the workplace

    From Military Discipline to Human-Centered Hiring

    Josh’s experience in the military shaped how he thinks about teams, accountability, and trust. However, when he entered the HR world, he noticed a major disconnect.

    Too often, companies rush to fill seats. As a result, they hire good people into the wrong roles. Over time, this creates frustration, burnout, and attrition.

    Instead, Josh argues that hiring should focus on fit, chemistry, and clarity. When work is intentionally designed, people can succeed — and teams become stronger.

    AI as a Copilot, Not a Replacement

    AI is changing HR. However, Josh is clear about its role.

    AI should augment human-led hiring, not replace it. At SuperHired, AI helps surface great candidates. Humans then do the hard work of connection, context, and trust-building.

    This approach supports diversity, reduces bias, and leads to better long-term outcomes — especially for smaller teams where every hire matters.

    A Human Ending: Gardening and Growth

    The conversation closes on a lighter note. Josh shares his passion for gardening, which he describes as a meditative practice.

    In many ways, it mirrors his hiring philosophy. Growth takes time. Results require patience. And strong foundations matter more than speed.

    Josh Hill links:

    superhired.ai
    LinkedIn

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    Rebellious Times PodcastBy Chris Januszewski