Shawn is a Christ follower, founder of Leaf, an app thathelps you make group plans, co-host of a podcast called Two Black Sheep, andcreative director at Allen & Ade. You can follow Shawn on Instagram @soatesor @twoblacksheeplive. Leaf is available on the app store.Shawn and I had a great conversation about his podcast, his experience growing up in a predominantly white community, the struggle to settle into his identity, and the power of having a consistent group of friends in good times and also in the midst of struggle and grief.

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