We talk apples, birdhouses, and issues facing the next generation of Vermonters with baker, grafter, visionary, and local young person, Wendell Durham.

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Our super-rad theme music, segues, and outro are by Burlington VT's The Wet Ones! You can find them online at www.thewetones.surf.

This episode was sponsored by Vittles Espresso in Bradford, VT.

This episode was sponsored by Mountainside Chiropractic in West Fairlee, Vt.

This episode was recorded in Luke's kitchen (but is usually recorded at Bradford, VT's The Space on Main.)