Welcome to The Conversation, with Chiefs interim coach Clayton McMillan. Sky Sport presenters Rikki Swannell and Joey Wheeler catch up with one of the new faces in the New Zealand rugby scene, who's tasked with holding the fort while Warren Gatland coaches the British and Irish Lions in 2021. The former Bay of Plenty coach discusses his background as a policeman, bringing through young players, how the Chiefs can improve this season, and whether Sam Cane will captain the side.