In this episode of *the Ripl effect*, Caroline Pearce is joined by Simon Dixon from Climate Action Leeds to explore the complex relationship between climate, politics and social justice.

Their conversation looks at how the language we use around climate change can either bring people together or push them away, and why the way we frame these issues matters just as much as the action we take.

Simon shares his experience working within communities across Leeds, helping to make climate conversations more inclusive, hopeful and rooted in everyday life.

Together, they reflect on how to move from blame to belonging, and what it really takes to create change that includes everyone.

If you want a takeaway, actions from today's conversation : connect with our neighbours, and attend local community events to meet people we otherwise don't.

Find out more: Website: https://www.climateactionleeds.org.uk

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Music - Podcast theme music by Transistor.fm

Cover illustration - Joely Maria Illustration