Cultural Producer Sue Ball, and Structural Engineer Hannah Keighley talk with Gillian about their experiences of working in public art and public realm.

Wise Women Conversations is a commission for Leeds 2023 Year of Culture and supported by Leeds Beckett University, School of Arts.

Concept and Production, Gillian Dyson

Production Assistant, Rheanna Atkinson

Editor, Kit Watson 

Additional audio content, Paddy Mackenzie 

Photography, Lizzie Coombes 

Graphic Design, Megan Shirt

© G Dyson 2023