John talks with Dan about his recent performance with Fiona Apple, the events which took place on July 25, 2008 at the Westfield Southcenter mall, and their musical "first-times".

Links for this episode:

• Fiona Apple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• Jonathan Ames - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• Nickel Creek
  
• American Beauty (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  
• John Roderick (@johnroderick) • Instagram photos and videos
  
• Westfield
  
• Westfield Southcenter
  
• Westfield Southcenter to celebrate expansion Friday - Kent Reporter
  7-9:30 a.m. July 25 — Shoppers who are in line before 9:30 a.m. will receive a scratch-off ticket revealing a prize valued at $25 or more from various retailers.9 a.m.

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