Jordan Rich joins Maine Poet Laureate Stuart Kestenbaum in conversation and to read her poem "How to Build a Closet," featured in A NEW LAND, a poetry anthology from The Telling Room. Stuart and Jordan discuss the genre of queer poetry, writing representation into literature that is positive and healing, using real life experience, sharing as a relief, words as power, workshopping writing, and the treatment of self-acceptance and self-love in a queer context. Jordan is now a student at Bay Path University studying child psychology.