In this episode of the Making Shift Happen Podcast, Jay and Anne sit down with Pilar Orti to chat about leadership in the new hybrid work environment.

Pilar is the director of Virtual not Distant, which she set up in 2016. The company provides training for managers of remote teams, and is developing the programme Podcasting for Connection, to help employees stay connected together, regardless of where they're based.

Find out more about Pilar's work: https://www.virtualnotdistant.com/about

The Making Shift Happen podcast is written and produced by Jay Chopra, PhD (Managing Director) and Anne Mahler, PhD (Academy Lead  and Consultant).