This month we're talking about leading through suffering. In this episode we are joined by Dave Learned, who is the Pastor of Biblical Soul Care at Harvest Bible Chapel in Chicago. What happens when you, as the leader, experience your own trials and suffering? How is God using that to grow you and train you to lead your people better? Pastor Dave, along with our hosts Brian and Jeff, give some practical tips on what to do and how to react in your moment of suffering, and how to use that experience to become a better leader.