This week we finish up our interview with Loren Cassin Sackett and Nic Kooyers, two early career scientists who checked out Laikipia, Kenya for a fortnight, in search of adventure and research ideas. More vehicle stories, some discussions of why collaboration is important in science, and of course, spirit animals.

To check out the National Geographic Voices blog that ate up all of my time (thus pushing this podcast back a week), click here: http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2016/09/13/tiny-ants-may-pose-a-big-threat-for-diversity-in-laikipia/

This week's music selection features:

Holy Water by Taking Back Sunday(https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/tidal-wave/id1120383424)

Mr November by The National (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/alligator/id1028833836)

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Unsatisfied by The Replacements (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/let-it-be/id162563989)