Today, we are going to be talking with Jim Beechey, the executive director of Security at Consumers Energy, to talk about setting goals and measuring them with metrics.

2018 Converge Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDwsn17c57k

Books suggested in this episode:

Security Metrics: Replacing Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - Andrew Jaquith The Tyranny of Metrics - Jerry Muller Daemon - Daniel Suarez Freedom (TM) - Daniel Suarez The Only Plane in the Sky: An Oral History of 9/11 - Garrett Graff