n this episode of The Backstage Leadership Podcast, David Jones sits down with his friend and coworker Jeremy Brownlee, author of Make the World More Awesome, to talk about what it means to develop people, not just delegate tasks. Together, they unpack the difference between leading with vision versus leading with to-do lists, the process of building maturity in those you lead, and why investing in relationships always comes before giving feedback.

Whether you’re leading a worship team, production crew, or any group of volunteers, this episode will help you lead like Jesus — empowering others, simplifying systems, and building leaders who multiply leaders.

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