Rhythm and Chai is a space for conversations that explore what lives beneath the work.

This episode reflects on growth not as a straight path, but as something that pauses, shifts, leaves, and returns.

Urja Desai Thakore is joined by Sanjay and Pranav, who began training with Pagrav in 2006. Over time, their roles have evolved from students to friends, supporters, trustees, and teachers.

Together, they explore what it means to grow over time: to step away, to return differently, and to stay connected through it all.

This is a conversation about learning, leaving, and the relationships that make growth a lifelong practice.