"Joy is the fuel. Without it, you burn out."

In this conversation, Nico Spreng shares his journey from corporate sustainability into regeneration, and the insights he’s gained along the way.

We talk about burnout, disillusionment, and why the will to change the world so often leads to exhaustion instead of impact. But also: how to come back to joy, meaning, and community.

We cover:

00:00 Introduction to Sustainability and Regeneration

04:17 Understanding ESG and Corporate Sustainability

08:27 The Shift from Sustainability to Regeneration

12:51 The Importance of Interconnectedness

17:08 Challenges in the Sustainability Field

21:05 Finding Joy and Community in Sustainability

25:34 Nico's Upcoming Adventure in Tanzania

🔗 Links & Resources: → Nico on Substack: https://nicospreng.substack.com/ → Nico on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nico-spreng/

Stay in touch: → The Breath of Life (Substack) Creating experiences of interconnectedness—with ourselves, others, and the world. https://yuliabogdanova.substack.com/about

→ Berlin Breath Walks Slow walks using breath and forest presence to recalibrate your nervous system. https://yuliabogdanova.substack.com/p/berlin-breath-walks

→ Nature Flow Lab Outdoor, experiential sessions for teams to approach complex challenges through engaging with nature and a shift in mental state. https://natureflowlab.com/