Join Kurt and guest Rob on the PackBreakers podcast for a discussion on high-end vapes, Rob's experience with diabetes, and the transition from smoking to vaping. Learn about nicotine's role in Rob's life and how legislation impacts consumers.

00:58 - Introduction to Rob 

02:45 - High-end Vapes 

04:14 - Vaping as a diabetic, misconceptions and personal experience 

06:04 - Your vape journey and reduction of nicotine concentration 

09:00 - The transition smoking to vaping 

10:20 - Nicotine and the role in Rob's life

12:15 - How legislation will affect you as a consumer 

15:12 - The importance of and reasoning behind Rob remaining independence and his role in VPASA 

16:14 - Rob's message to the government around vaping