Episode 3 of the Refuse to lose podcast is with Manly Sea Eagles superstars Jake and Tom Trbojevic.

The brothers are a little different to previous guests. They haven't had to endure a tough up bringing or being subject to heavy trauma on their road to being professional athletes. But that doesn't stop them from having a great message to share.

Despite all their success, playing for New South Wales and Australia ... they are two of the most giving people with their time you could meet. They do plenty of work in their home community on the northern beaches of Sydney from coaching young kids to working with mental health charities. We cover off that plus plenty of other fun footy chat and of course a good Des Hasler story. Please enjoy!