In dialogue with Sebene Selassie, teacher, author and speaker who explores belonging and identity, deep diving into these topics in her forthcoming book, You Belong. Sebene offers up paradoxes for us to grapple with, inviting a reckoning with culturally created separateness and the ultimate truth of our belonging. Sebene and Chela explore many themes of belonging including the pathology of productivity and punitive self-development and the complex and messy territory of social justice, spirituality and cultivating community. Sebene brings thoughtful, deep and fiercely compassionate insight and practice to what it means to lead and to belong to all of this. For links & show notes go to: cheladavison.com/podcast