In this episode, John sits down with Zach to answer a simple question: what is the goal of Boring Dads of Jax?

That conversation opens into a broader discussion about fatherhood, leadership, growth, and the challenge of becoming a better dad without much training or structure. They talk through the similarities and differences between leadership at work and leadership at home, the role of planning in family life, how fun shapes a child’s identity, and what it means to protect your children in the modern world.

They also reflect on how their own fathers influenced them, what patterns are worth keeping, and what needs to be unlearned.

It’s honest, funny, reflective, and intentionally unpolished—exactly what the show is meant to be.

Boring Dads of Jax is a podcast about fatherhood, growth, and trying to get a little better over time.