In this episode Hugo interviews Angie Vogel a Brown Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Phil and Ric Migliarese out of Balance Studios in Philly. We talk about Angie's martial arts journey, how to be a good instructor, what is good instruction and how to sell Jiu-Jitsu to women.

You can follow Angie on Instagram @grapplesandoranges. You'll love her food pictures.

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