In this episode of InfoSec to Insanity, Evan Francen and Matt Goodacre dive into the winding, messy, and sometimes hilarious journey of figuring out what the hell you’re actually built for in life. Spoiler: it’s probably not what your high school guidance counselor told you. 

Live from a cruise ship (yep, really), Evan shares a powerful conversation with an older couple that sparked this episode’s core question: Why do we pressure people to choose a career path before they’ve even lived a little?
Expect raw honesty, a few personal war stories, and some serious reflection on how trying things, failing, and pivoting might be the only real way to figure out your calling—whether it’s infosec, garbage collection, or bartending.

In this episode:

• Why we’ve got career discovery all backwards
• The long, weird resume that led Evan to infosec
• How societal pressure can screw up great potential
• What it actually feels like when you find what you’re built for
• Advice for the young, the stuck, and the still-searching

This one’s for anyone who’s still figuring it out—or has a few career skeletons in their closet. (Spoiler: so do we.)