Wellness Mastery with Jen Hoyer

Episode 30 - Craving Food or Avoiding Feeling?


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Episode 30: Craving Food or Avoiding Feeling?


In this episode, Jen explores the difference between craving food and avoiding feelings, sharing a deeply personal story about emotional regulation and the urge to numb pain with food. She discusses the concepts of "clean pain" vs. "dirty pain," and provides practical steps for processing emotions in a healthy way.


Timestamps & Key Topics:

[0:00] Introduction

Jen welcomes listeners and introduces the episode’s theme.

[0:50] Personal Story: Emotional Challenge

Jen shares a recent, personal experience with emotional pain and the urge to numb.

[2:55] Clean Pain vs. Dirty Pain

Explanation of the difference between clean pain (natural emotions) and dirty pain (suffering from resisting emotions).

[4:30] Nervous System Responses

Discussion of fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses to emotional stress.

[5:45] The Power of Empathetic Witness

How being witnessed in pain can help process emotions.

[7:00] Actionable Steps for Emotional Regulation:

[7:56] Notice the Urge: Pause and recognize the desire to numb or escape.

[8:20] Name the Emotion: Identify and label what you’re truly feeling.

[9:00] Ask: Clean or Dirty Pain? Determine if you’re experiencing natural pain or adding suffering by resisting it.

[10:33] Complete the Stress Cycle: Allow emotions to move through your body (crying, movement, deep breathing, etc.).

[13:26] Find an Empathetic Witness: Share your feelings with someone who can listen without trying to fix or judge.

[14:40] Practice Self-Compassion: If you do numb, reflect with kindness and try again—no guilt or shame.

[18:20] Closing Thoughts

Jen reminds listeners that feeling emotions is part of being human, and that every moment is a new opportunity to practice self-kindness and emotional resilience.

[18:24] Invitation to Wellness Mastery Society

Jen invites listeners to join her virtual coaching program for deeper support.

Want to go deeper and experience how coaching can change your journey? Learn more about The Wellness Mastery Society at www.wellnessmasteryforlife.com/thesociety

Want to learn more?

Check out my website at www.wellnessmasteryforlife.com and follow me on Instagram @wellnessmastery4life or Facebook facebook.com/WellnessMastery4Life

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