Dan is joined by magician, Lucas Kogaki, and he performs a trick on the show, a podcast first!

We chat about the thousands of strangers he performs to each week, not being afraid of failure, the love of close up magic, having an out for everything, discovering magic on YouTube at 14, people's spectrum of knowing how tricks work, giving people a lasting sense of wonder, getting the nickname of "the magician" at school, the snowballing effect of becoming a magician, the imposter syndrome of being a magician, the blend of card tricks & mentalism, staying original, needing to do the same trick a million times to perfect it, initially being too obsessed with magic, the best reactions, forming a stage show, performing at hens parties, having self respect as a performer, the nuances of mentalism, wanting to do his own TV show, doing magic on nights out, the most rewarding gigs, not scripting out material, unwavering self belief, magic happening naturally, having discussions about the larger things in life, business cards, and a whole lot more!

Cover Photo: Matty Parker

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