Ever wonder what lies inside Taylor Swift’s head, other than ponies. And guitars that taste like strawberries. And images of One Direction with Harry Styles’s face scribbled out with a glitter pen?

You’re not alone. A loyal listener wrote in recently asking what’s really behind the lovelorn lyrics written by award-winning angstress. So this week, I brought in Jo-Ann Geffen, a top music manager who’s repped everybody from the Temptations to the Commodores to Jim Brickman to David Cassidy. If anyone can navigate the tangled network of rainbow bridges inside the mind of a tween singer-songwriter, it’s her.

And she has your answer.

Plus!

Have a listen!