With some time off till his next weekend of racing and pacing, Graham reflects on the coldest race he's ever done (as a pacer), and why it only took him a few minutes to decide to do it again in 2025. Graham will also compete in the 2025 Arkansas Grand Prix race series, starting with the 1-hour track run, the day after his breezy Time Travel half marathon pacing gig in North Little Rock at the end of the month. Michelle and Graham also discuss whether or not they'd attempt to climb Mount Everest. Graham reflects on the time he got lost hiking the Butterfield Trail at Devil's Den State Park outside of Fayetteville, Arkansas, and the one time he was forced to go number two outdoors.