Sam Biddle – senior writer at Gawker and all around bon vivant – is a man who knows how to attract controversy. He sits down with Josh in a bedroom of a strange and possibly haunted mansion in upstate New York to discuss the thankless work of covering the dark side of Silicon Valley startups, the increasing toxicity of the internet, the mysterious appeal of Fallout 4, and the difference between Breitbart and Stormfront (spoiler: not much). Along the way Sam and Josh find a friendship that will last a lifetime, or at least until Sam puts Josh in the spotlight for being a snake oil salesman who's too busy getting high on his own supply to see the damage he's doing to the crafting industry.

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