Despite this album cover looking an entry into a high school graphic design competition, this album is pretty good. Well, better than we remembered but I don't think it's something either of us will return to. That seems to be the Sevendust way, stick at a certain level with a certain amount of fans. That may not be a fair assessment, but we discuss that and much more on this episode.

There's a good 50 minutes of me biting my tongue until I have to start talking about the drums. It took all of my restraint but I couldn't hold it in anymore. You can't rock out on open hi-hats. Can't be done.

Thanks for listening to this podcast. We're seeing the numbers go up each other episode which is really nice. Thank you!

Love always,

BDT