The twins are not fighting. It might seem like that, though. This episode covers everything from health and fitness to guitars and pencils - from CrossFit to the mountains of Southwest Virginia, Billy Preston to Paul Williams and so much more - including a cool instrumental from Chris.

SHOW NOTES:

0:00 - "Airwolf Blitzer" - Instrumental by Chris Yale

1:43 - Greetings and about the instrumental / Logic Pro

2:47 - We're not fighting / Fuente Anejo 888

4:00 - Health & fitness / Chris' flip-flops / Achilles heels

5:01 - Eating seeds as a pastime activity

5:35 - Kretschmer

6:05 - Roger's son and coach / More fitness / Nutrition / Insect protein / Cricket protein / Buddy Holly's Crickets

7:45 - Roger's son competed in Fittest of the Coast / CrossFit Wando

8:52 - Riffing on CrossFit

9:23 - Coloring and hunting for Easter Eggs

9:35 - Neil Young "After the Gold Rush"

10:05 - Harry Nilsson "Without You" / Eric Carmen "All By Myself" / Celine Dion "All By Myself" / Eminem "Without Me"

11:10 - Paul Williams interviewed by Brian Koppelman

12:10 - Wytheville, VA and "The Pencil"

12:57 - Pencil quality check / Dixon Ticonderoga

13:35 - Quality and the Global Marketplace

13:30 - Quality and guitars / Chris' guitars / Quality can be found everywhwere

16:32 - Returning guitars / More guitar talk / SansAmp Acoustic Flyrig / Sansabelt pants

19:41 - Popeil Pocket Fisherman

20:45 - Recent gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / The mix / PreSonus / QSC

23:49 - "Let's unpack this" / "Let's stick a pin in this" / "Hey there" / Jen Psaki

24: 56 - Busy Myrtle Beach / Vaccine talk / Hygiene / Chemicals

26:50 - Inner Space ride at Disneyland back in the day / Billy Preston "Outta Space"

27:48 - Chris' session with Billy Preston / Joe Hicks / Roger Dollarhide / Paramount Recording Studios

29:37 - Drinking in Hollywood / Four Aces / Frolic Room / Firefly / Old Drunks / Drinking at lunch / The Old Spaghetti Factory with Mark Mulkeen / The People Tree / Gower Gulch

33:22 - BUZZ WTR / New booze versus old booze / Seltzers / White Claw / Jameson

34:08 - Roger's daughter is a Hibernophile

35:02 - Freestyling versus talking points

36:15 - 33 Episodes already / Jesus died at 33 / Elton John "21 at 33"

DeBarge "All This Love"

37:20 - Happy birthday to our friend Stan Obrycki