In this episode, the FIRST Podcasters interview FIRSTCON23 speaker, Dr. Eugene Spafford and his partner, Dr. Pattie Spafford. Together they discuss their recently published book, “Cybersecurity Myths and Misconceptions” co-authored by Leigh Metcalf, and Josiah Dykstra. They touch on the importance of communication and clear terminology that surpasses cultural barriers. Cybersecurity is people-centric and yet so much has been done by tech specialists without the end user in mind, the book proposes steps to clear language with metaphoric illustrations by Pattie.