Hank welcomes Kevin Rudd (26th Prime Minister of Australia and President of the Asia Society Policy Institute) to the podcast to discuss how he went from a small town farm in Queensland to a career in foreign service and politics, his perspective on the social and political divisions in the US, advocating for climate action, preventing US-China conflict, and his expert prognosis for the future of China's ambitions.

Kevin Rudd: https://asiasociety.org/policy-institute/honorable-kevin-rudd

https://kevinrudd.com