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Episode 33: North Korea: Worst Genocide in the World Today (ft. Morse Tan & Justus Smith)


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May 12, 2025

Join Justus Smith in this compelling interview with Ambassador Morse H. Tan, the first Asian-American to serve as the U.S. Ambassador-at-Large for Global Criminal Justice . Appointed by President Trump in December 2019, Ambassador Tan led the State Department’s efforts to address genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity worldwide .


In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore:

• The prosecution of war crimes and the pursuit of justice for atrocities

• Genocide and human rights abuses in Myanmar, China, and Cambodia

• The persecution of groups like the Falun Gong

• The political dynamics of South Korea, including President Yoon’s impeachment

• Espionage and the threat of North Korean spies

• Historical parallels with Nazi Germany and Stalin’s Soviet Union

• The role of President Xi Jinping in contemporary global politics


Ambassador Tan shares insights from his tenure, discussing the challenges of international law, the importance of accountability, and the complexities of diplomatic engagement in regions plagued by conflict and repression.

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