This week, Bank of America’s Ashok Krishnan and Duncan McInnes join Tony to discuss the build, buy, borrow strategy and instilling the right culture within the bank.

0:00 – Shen and Tony talk about the Risk Live Asia 2025 conference in Singapore

7:30 – Ashok and Duncan join the podcast

11:30 – The build, buy, borrow strategy

14:00 – Building a rocket ship

19:00 – Instilling a culture that remains

22:30 – Doubling down on the ‘Why’

28:00 – Managing tech priorities

34:00 – Dealing with data, interoperability, and tech debt