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Norman Finkelstein is back to weigh in on billionaire Bill Ackman's attack on academic freedom and how it backfired colossally with accusations that his own wife committed worse plagiarism than Claudine Gay, whom he fought to oust from Harvard because she didn't crack down hard enough on anti-Zionist speech. The conversation broadens out into a two hour discourse on the history of academic freedom, whether "from the river to the sea" is a productive slogan, and more.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

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